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Interview r\u00e9alis\u00e9e par Caroline Galact\u00e9ros* en octobre 2019<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG:<\/strong> I\nrealized that more than ever Artsakh is in fact a unique place but has also a\ncentral role to play on the global security chessboard. How do you analyze the\ncurrent state of international relations? What is important for you in terms of\ncooperation and what do you think about its evolution?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan:<\/strong> Artsakh provides security in the region. It has a\nstrong army and a policy of deterrence in order to prevent a new war. The\npolicy of Azerbaijan is to try to solve the problem by the use of force, and by\nhaving an army we have an opportunity to play the role of peacekeeper in the\nregion. It is very important to understand that our army is playing a role for\nmaintaining stability and security in our region. It\u2019s very important that the\ninternational community understands that our forces, in fact, exercise the\nfunction of peacekeeping mission. Since it is very expensive, very difficult\nand not all countries in the region are interested in having here such forces.\nIt\u2019s cheaper and much more effective and efficient to have a strong army \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>Than having an international operation?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan: <\/strong>Yes, because they have to play the same role but I can\u2019t say\nmore than that. Our army has been doing a very good job for the past 25 years.\nWhat\u2019s important to know is that we\u2019re a provider of security. We think we are\nliving in very difficult times, in a difficult world for the past decade, for\nexample, in the Middle East, which is only 400-500 hundred kilometers away from\nus. During the past decade we had the Syrian crisis, the Kurdish situation, the\nsituation between Ukraine and Russia, the crisis between Georgia, Russia, and\nthe South Ossetia\u2026Then there is the situation between the United States with\nIran who is our neighbor with more than one hundred kilometers common border.\nWe\u2019re observing closely the whole situation. We are doing our best to maintain\nsecurity. Otherwise, if something happens here in Artsakh, on the frontline\nbetween Artsakh and Azerbaijan, it can cause a crucial destabilization. We\u2019re\ndoing our best with our opportunities, our potential.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>There is still the question of the status of Artsakh, of the\nMinsk process. What about its future and what role could France play?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan: <\/strong>Our status is very important, we\u2019re an independent country,\nnot yet recognized internationally, however we meet all the standards. This is\na political question that a country is not recognized by some countries that\nhave some geopolitical interests, like they do in Kosovo etc. Now we are well\nprepared, better prepared than Kosovo was. As you know the international\ncommunity implemented many programs to bring it to the required standards and\nrecognize the status of Kosovo.
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\nIn our case, without the help of the international community, we created our\ncountry and our strong institutions and they are very efficient. We spoke about\nour army and other important institutions which are working. The international\nrecognition and international status of Artsakh is connected with security in\nthe region. International recognition, also by your country, would help to\nstrengthen the security in our region. Because what is happening now? In 1991,\nin the territory of ex-Soviet Union and ex-Soviet Azerbaijan were created two\ncountries: the Republic of Azerbaijan and what we call now the Republic of\nArtsakh. But the international community recognized only Azerbaijan and not\nArtsakh. For Azerbaijan it was a signal, that it has the carte blanche<\/em> to\nstart war against the sovereign Republic of Artsakh, trying to expand its\nsovereignty. It was a very wrong signal for Azerbaijan. Now, in contrast, if\nthe international community will recognize the Republic of Artsakh, it will be\nanother signal to Azerbaijan that we are an internationally recognized country.\nIn this situation they are still thinking they can use force to expand their\nsovereignty over Artsakh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>Because only Nagorno-Karabagh was an autonomous region in\nAzerbaijan?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan: <\/strong>In Soviet Azerbaijan. We were never part of an independent\nAzerbaijan because Azerbaijan was also part of another empire. During thousands\nof years, Artsakh stayed united, Armenians lived there, and the 70 years of the\nSoviet Empire were by contrast a very short time. It is not enough of a reason\nfor Azerbaijan to claim our territory. It\u2019s a very short period in history,\nit\u2019s just one second episode in a history of thousands of years. Even at that\ntime we had autonomy, a sort of statehood. So, we created our state using the\nsame legislation then Azerbaijan and other Soviet Republics used to proclaim\ntheir independence. We\u2019ve never been part of Azerbaijan and we\u2019ll never be part\nof Azerbaijan. We\u2019ll be independent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG:<\/strong> Hearing\nyou gives me an idea. Your problem is an image problem, it\u2019s a perception\nproblem of the role of Artsakh. You said that Artsakh could have a different\nperceived role. What would you say about a first step in a formal conference\nabout the regional role of Artsakh, not as a problem but as a solution?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan.<\/strong> This Friday we\u2019re organizing such a conference for the\nFriends of Artsakh with more than 20 countries participating. The international\nrecognition of Artsakh has started: nine states from the United States already\nrecognized Artsakh. We have more than 20-25 sister cities in Europe, United\nStates, South America, Australia, and the Middle East. We have different\nfriendship groups in parliaments, not only with members of parliaments, but\nalso with academicians, think tanks, and cultural luminaries. This process is\nongoing. And we hope that one day also central governments of many states, such\nas France will recognize us. We have 12 sister cities in your country alone.\nThe departments of La Dr\u00f4me, two to three weeks ago also Is\u00e8re recognized our\nindependence. This is helping us to de-isolate our country, to create\nopportunities for our communities, and to have international relations. We are\nestablishing international cooperation with different actors, mainly in the\nfields of culture, education, and economy\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>What about Russia and China and this new Silk Road? It is\nalso important to opening up in a way international relations?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan. <\/strong>The idea of the Silk Road is interesting for us. We hope that\none day this road will pass through our territory because as I said we are\nagainst isolation and in favor of international cooperation, we\u2019re open to the\nworld, also in terms of economic cooperation. And historically, one of the\nroads passed through Artsakh and there was even a production of silk goods. Historically\nwe were part of it and we hope that in the future we will have such an\nopportunity again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>So, you have good relations with China? Chinese officials?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan.<\/strong> Not officials, but some ties in fields of business and\ntourism. I also said we have a border with Iran, we have connections with Iran\nand I hope that one day we will have enough infrastructures to connect China\nand Europe through Artsakh. And through the Republic of Armenia we are also benefiting\nfrom such a cooperation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>There is perhaps a kind of contradiction because in fact you\nhave a Eurasian dimension with Iran, Russia, China, and Turkey?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan. <\/strong>Our country is placed between Asia and Europe. I mean that we\ncan connect these two parts of the world. We can be a bridge. We\u2019re not seeing\nthis situation as a confrontation; we do not want to be a point of\nconfrontation between big powers. For example, it\u2019s very clear that France,\nRussia, and the United States are working coherently as mediators on Artsakh\nissue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG: <\/strong>Presently there are tensions among this group\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan: <\/strong>No, they\u2019re working together. Not everything depends on them. Since Azerbaijan is a destructive party what can the Minsk Group do? Of course, they are trying to be active, trying to support the process. They are working together, transparently, and they\u2019re happy to be able to do so because they\u2019re discussing not only the Karabagh problem\u2026 When we are speaking about the Silk Road, Russia, Europe, Iran, China \u2026 I think we can play a positive and constructive role. In our case, we\u2019re trying to connect them all together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Article en fran\u00e7ais : <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Interview avec Masis Mayilyan, ministre des Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res d\u2019Artsakh<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : J\u2019ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 que l\u2019Artsakh est en fait un endroit unique, mais qu\u2019elle a aussi un r\u00f4le central en mati\u00e8re de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sur l\u2019\u00e9chiquier mondial. Comment analysez-vous l\u2019\u00e9tat actuel des relations internationales\u2009? Qu\u2019est-ce qui est important pour vous en mati\u00e8re de coop\u00e9ration et que pensez-vous de son \u00e9volution\u2009? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masis Mayilyan<\/strong> : L\u2019Artsakh\nassure la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans la r\u00e9gion. Elle a une arm\u00e9e forte et une politique de\ndissuasion qui lui permet d\u2019\u00e9viter une nouvelle guerre. La politique de l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan\nest d\u2019essayer de r\u00e9soudre le probl\u00e8me par le recours \u00e0 la force, et avec notre\narm\u00e9e, nous avons la possibilit\u00e9 de jouer un r\u00f4le de maintien de la paix dans\nla r\u00e9gion. Il est tr\u00e8s important de comprendre que notre arm\u00e9e joue un r\u00f4le\npour maintenir la stabilit\u00e9 et la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans notre r\u00e9gion. Il est tr\u00e8s\nimportant que la communaut\u00e9 internationale comprenne que nos forces exercent en\nr\u00e9alit\u00e9 la fonction de maintien de la paix. C\u2019est moins cher et beaucoup plus\nefficace et avantageux d\u2019avoir une arm\u00e9e forte\u2026 <\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Que d\u2019avoir une\nop\u00e9ration internationale\u2009? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : Oui, car ils\ndoivent jouer le m\u00eame r\u00f4le mais je ne peux pas en dire plus que \u00e7a. Notre arm\u00e9e\nfait du tr\u00e8s bon travail depuis 25 ans. Ce qui est important \u00e0 savoir, c\u2019est\nque nous sommes un \u00e9l\u00e9ment r\u00e9gional de s\u00e9curit\u00e9. Nous pensons que nous vivons \u00e0\nune \u00e9poque tr\u00e8s difficile, dans un monde difficile depuis une dizaine d\u2019ann\u00e9es,\npar exemple, au Moyen-Orient, qui n\u2019est qu\u2019\u00e0 400-500 kilom\u00e8tres de nous.\nAu cours de la derni\u00e8re d\u00e9cennie, nous avons eu la crise syrienne, la situation\nkurde, la situation entre l\u2019Ukraine et la Russie, la crise entre la G\u00e9orgie, la\nRussie et l\u2019Oss\u00e9tie du Sud\u2026 Ensuite, il y a la situation entre les \u00c9tats-Unis\net l\u2019Iran, notre voisin avec qui nous avons une fronti\u00e8re commune de plus de\ncent kilom\u00e8tres. Nous observons de pr\u00e8s toute la situation. Nous faisons de\nnotre mieux pour maintenir la s\u00e9curit\u00e9. Sinon, si quelque chose se passait ici\nen Artsakh, sur la ligne de front entre l\u2019Artsakh et l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan, cela\npourrait provoquer une d\u00e9stabilisation critique. Nous faisons de notre mieux\navec nos moyens, notre potentiel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Il y a encore la\nquestion du statut de l\u2019Artsakh et du processus du Minsk. Qu\u2019en est-il de son\navenir et du r\u00f4le que la France pourrait jouer\u2009? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : Notre statut est\ntr\u00e8s important, nous sommes un pays ind\u00e9pendant, pas encore reconnu\ninternationalement bien que nous en respections toutes les normes. Il s\u2019agit d\u2019une\nquestion purement politique quand un pays n\u2019est pas reconnu par d\u2019autres qui\nont des int\u00e9r\u00eats g\u00e9opolitiques \u00e0 ne pas le reconna\u00eetre comme ils ont reconnu le\nKosovo. Nous sommes maintenant bien pr\u00e9par\u00e9s, mieux pr\u00e9par\u00e9s que le Kosovo.\nComme vous le savez, la communaut\u00e9 internationale a mis en \u0153uvre de nombreux\nprogrammes pour amener ce pays aux normes requises et reconna\u00eetre son statut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dans notre cas, sans l\u2019aide de la\ncommunaut\u00e9 internationale, nous avons cr\u00e9\u00e9 notre pays et nos institutions\nfortes et elles sont tr\u00e8s efficaces. Nous avons \u00e9voqu\u00e9 notre arm\u00e9e et d\u2019autres\ninstitutions importantes qui fonctionnent bien. La reconnaissance par la\ncommunaut\u00e9 internationale et la question internationale du statut de l\u2019Artsakh\nsont li\u00e9es \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans la r\u00e9gion. La reconnaissance internationale,\n\u00e9galement par votre pays, contribuerait au renforcement de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans\nnotre r\u00e9gion. Qu\u2019est-ce qui se passe actuellement\u2009? En 1991, sur le territoire\nde l\u2019ex-Union sovi\u00e9tique et de l\u2019ex-Azerba\u00efdjan sovi\u00e9tique ont \u00e9t\u00e9 cr\u00e9\u00e9s deux\npays : la R\u00e9publique d\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan et ce que nous appelons aujourd\u2019hui la\nR\u00e9publique d\u2019Artsakh. Mais la communaut\u00e9 internationale n\u2019a reconnu que l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan\net non l\u2019Artsakh. Pour l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan, c\u2019\u00e9tait un signal qu\u2019il a interpr\u00e9t\u00e9\ncomme une carte blanche pour d\u00e9clencher la guerre contre la R\u00e9publique\nsouveraine d\u2019Artsakh, en essayant d\u2019\u00e9tendre sa souverainet\u00e9. C\u2019\u00e9tait un tr\u00e8s\nmauvais signal \u00e0 destination de l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan. Maintenant, en revanche, si la\ncommunaut\u00e9 internationale reconna\u00eet la R\u00e9publique d\u2019Artsakh, ce sera un autre\nmessage \u00e0 l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan, celui que nous sommes un pays internationalement reconnu.\nAlors que dans la situation actuelle, ils pensent encore qu\u2019ils peuvent\nutiliser la force pour \u00e9tendre leur souverainet\u00e9 sur l\u2019Artsakh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Parce que\nNagorno-Karabagh \u00e9tait une r\u00e9gion autonome en Azerba\u00efdjan\u2009?  <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : En Azerba\u00efdjan\nsovi\u00e9tique. Nous n\u2019avons jamais fait partie d\u2019un Azerba\u00efdjan ind\u00e9pendant parce\nque l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan lui-m\u00eame faisait partie d\u2019un autre empire [sovi\u00e9tique].\nPendant des milliers d\u2019ann\u00e9es, l\u2019Artsakh est rest\u00e9 uni et les Arm\u00e9niens y ont\nv\u00e9cu\u2009; par contraste, les 70 ans de l\u2019Empire sovi\u00e9tique n\u2019ont \u00e9t\u00e9 qu\u2019une\ntr\u00e8s courte p\u00e9riode au cours de l\u2019histoire. Cela ne constitue pas une raison\nsuffisante pour que l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan revendique notre territoire. C\u2019est une tr\u00e8s\ncourte p\u00e9riode de l\u2019histoire, un \u00e9pisode d\u2019une seconde en mille ans d\u2019histoire.\nM\u00eame \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque, nous avions l\u2019autonomie, une sorte de statut \u00e9tatique.\nNous avons donc cr\u00e9\u00e9 notre \u00c9tat selon la m\u00eame l\u00e9gislation [de l\u2019URSS] que l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan\net les autres r\u00e9publiques ex-sovi\u00e9tiques ont utilis\u00e9e pour proclamer leur\nind\u00e9pendance. Nous n\u2019avons jamais fait partie de l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan et nous n\u2019en\nferons jamais partie. Nous serons ind\u00e9pendants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Vous entendre me\ndonne une id\u00e9e. Votre probl\u00e8me est un probl\u00e8me d\u2019image, c\u2019est un probl\u00e8me de\nperception du r\u00f4le de l\u2019Artsakh. Vous avez dit que l\u2019Artsakh pouvait avoir un\nr\u00f4le per\u00e7u diff\u00e9remment. Que diriez-vous comme premi\u00e8re \u00e9tape d\u2019une conf\u00e9rence\nsur le r\u00f4le r\u00e9gional de l\u2019Artsakh, non pas comme un probl\u00e8me, mais comme une\nsolution\u2009?   <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : Ce vendredi,\nnous organisons une telle conf\u00e9rence pour \u00ab\u00a0Les Amis de l\u2019Artsakh\u00a0\u00bb\navec plus de 20 pays participants. La reconnaissance internationale de l\u2019Artsakh\na commenc\u00e9 : neuf \u00c9tats des \u00c9tats-Unis ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 reconnu l\u2019Artsakh. Nous\navons plus de 20-25 villes jumel\u00e9es en Europe, aux \u00c9tats-Unis, en Am\u00e9rique\ndu Sud, en Australie et au Moyen-Orient. Nous avons diff\u00e9rents groupes d\u2019amiti\u00e9\nau sein des parlements, non seulement avec des parlementaires, mais aussi avec\ndes universitaires, des groupes de r\u00e9flexion et des sommit\u00e9s culturelles. Ce\nprocessus est en cours. Et nous esp\u00e9rons qu\u2019un jour, les gouvernements centraux\nde nombreux \u00c9tats, comme la France, nous reconna\u00eetront. Nous avons 12 villes\njumel\u00e9es dans votre seul pays. Cela nous aide \u00e0 d\u00e9senclaver notre pays, \u00e0 cr\u00e9er\ndes opportunit\u00e9s pour nos collectivit\u00e9s et \u00e0 avoir des relations\ninternationales. Nous \u00e9tablissons une coop\u00e9ration internationale avec\ndiff\u00e9rents acteurs, principalement dans les domaines de la culture, de l\u2019\u00e9ducation\net de l\u2019\u00e9conomie\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Qu\u2019en est-il de la\nRussie et de la Chine et de cette nouvelle route de la soie\u2009? Cela para\u00eet\n\u00e9galement important pour ouvrir d\u2019une certaine fa\u00e7on les relations\ninternationales\u2009?  <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : L\u2019id\u00e9e de la\nRoute de la Soie nous int\u00e9resse. Nous esp\u00e9rons qu\u2019un jour cette route\ntraversera notre territoire car, comme je l\u2019ai dit, nous sommes contre\nl\u2019isolement et en faveur de la coop\u00e9ration internationale, nous sommes ouverts\nau monde \u00e9galement en mati\u00e8re de coop\u00e9ration \u00e9conomique. Dans le pass\u00e9, l\u2019une\ndes routes de la soie passait par l\u2019Artsakh et il y avait m\u00eame une production d\u2019articles\nen soie. Historiquement, nous en faisions partie et nous esp\u00e9rons qu\u2019\u00e0 l\u2019avenir,\nnous aurons \u00e0 nouveau une telle occasion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Donc vous avez de\nbonnes relations avec la Chine et les officiels chinois\u2009? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : Nous n\u2019avons pas\nde relation officielle, mais quelques liens dans les domaines des affaires et\ndu tourisme. J\u2019ai \u00e9galement dit que nous avons une fronti\u00e8re avec l\u2019Iran, que\nnous avons des relations avec l\u2019Iran et j\u2019esp\u00e8re qu\u2019un jour nous aurons\nsuffisamment d\u2019infrastructures pour relier la Chine et l\u2019Europe \u00e0 travers l\u2019Artsakh.\nEt \u00e0 travers la R\u00e9publique d\u2019Arm\u00e9nie, nous b\u00e9n\u00e9ficions \u00e9galement d\u2019une telle\ncoop\u00e9ration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Il y a peut-\u00eatre une\nsorte de contradiction parce qu\u2019en fait vous avez une dimension eurasienne avec\nl\u2019Iran, la Russie, la Chine et la Turquie\u2009? \n<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : Notre pays se\nsitue entre l\u2019Asie et l\u2019Europe. Je veux dire que nous pouvons relier ces deux\nparties du monde. Nous pouvons \u00eatre un pont. Nous ne voyons pas cette situation\ncomme une confrontation, nous ne voulons pas \u00eatre un point de confrontation\nentre les grandes puissances. Par exemple, il est tr\u00e8s clair que la France, la\nRussie et les \u00c9tats-Unis travaillent de mani\u00e8re coh\u00e9rente en tant que\nm\u00e9diateurs sur la question de l\u2019Artsakh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CG : Actuellement, il y a\ndes tensions au sein de ce groupe\u2026 <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MM<\/strong> : Non, ils\ntravaillent ensemble. Mais tout ne d\u00e9pend pas d\u2019eux. Que peut faire le groupe\nde Minsk si l\u2019Azerba\u00efdjan joue un r\u00f4le destructeur\u2009? Bien s\u00fbr, ils essaient d\u2019\u00eatre\nactifs, de soutenir le processus. Ils travaillent ensemble de mani\u00e8re\ntransparente, et ils sont heureux de pouvoir le faire parce qu\u2019ils discutent\nnon seulement du probl\u00e8me du Karabagh\u2026 Quand nous parlons de la Route de la\nSoie, de la Russie, de l\u2019Europe, de l\u2019Iran, de la Chine\u2026 je pense que nous\npouvons jouer un r\u00f4le positif et constructif. Dans notre cas, nous essayons de\nles connecter tous ensemble.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Pour consulter l’int\u00e9gralit\u00e9 du num\u00e9ro 29 de la revue Europe et Orient de\njuillet\/d\u00e9cembre 2019 : https:\/\/edsigest.blogspot.com\/2019\/11\/eo-29-le-monde-dans-un-jeu-de-go.html<\/a>\net https:\/\/europeetorient.blogspot.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Interview r\u00e9alis\u00e9e par Caroline Galact\u00e9ros* en octobre 2019 CG: I realized that more than ever Artsakh is in fact a unique place but has also a central role to play on the global security chessboard. How do you analyze the current state of international relations? 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